tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post5167456806852932634..comments2024-02-28T01:29:11.245-08:00Comments on Rebel Doctor Web Log: What do you call a nurse practitioner?Michael Rack, MDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15365676269660178401noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-46452969373658142042020-11-02T03:27:07.360-08:002020-11-02T03:27:07.360-08:00Thank you for the information.Thank you for the information.Indoasianhttp://www.indoasianacademy.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-89506008353569607412020-04-15T10:16:12.075-07:002020-04-15T10:16:12.075-07:00ümraniye evden eve nakliyat
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Nurse practitioners go to school to obtain a masters degree to become NP's, so we should call them "Master!" LMAO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-89184371485367640102017-06-13T22:13:42.071-07:002017-06-13T22:13:42.071-07:00I like your blog a lot. Its informative and full o...I like your blog a lot. Its informative and full of information. Thank you for sharing.<br /><br />Medical Careershttp://www.medicaljobsaustralia.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-50775638882018384512016-03-07T23:38:24.049-08:002016-03-07T23:38:24.049-08:00there you go. common sense.now a patient may still...there you go. common sense.now a patient may still choose to call their nurse-doctor "dr. so and so", but if it's been made clear they're not a physician, must this be corrected?The Weekly Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438258261628580479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-11317601665249835122016-03-07T23:21:03.580-08:002016-03-07T23:21:03.580-08:00a nurse is not a janitor, and does more than "...a nurse is not a janitor, and does more than "wash" patients. wow. I very sorry that you have not had a good experience with nurses and PAs. why haven't you been able to see an MD? any chance the MDs in the same area might be jerk too? you may have struck out and found a horrible team of health professionals, but that is not the case across the board.The Weekly Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438258261628580479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-43427624840478320102016-03-07T23:17:19.908-08:002016-03-07T23:17:19.908-08:00btw, a lay person having a medical emergency will ...btw, a lay person having a medical emergency will not call for a doctor expecting a PhD in English or history; but if an RN or NP shows up instead of an MD or DO, I think they'll accept the help gladly. if a doctor does show up and the person is being helped by a nurse, I would hope the doctor would introduce him/herself and say, "how can I help?" instead of "I'll take over from here." Same way if a doctor is helping and a nurse is present, I would hope the the nurse would also introduce him/herself and ask the same question, not assume, "oh the doctor's got this, let me get back to my meal."The Weekly Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438258261628580479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-14409437602760119232016-03-07T23:08:55.143-08:002016-03-07T23:08:55.143-08:00idk where you lI've and practice, but nurses c...idk where you lI've and practice, but nurses can't go from 2 years undergrad to doing a Master's degree. what in the world??? at least 1 year of prerequisites, 2 years of nursing to become an RN, 1 year to get the BSN=4 years. during that time, a potential doctor can get a bachelor's degree in whatever, though, they do have to get core science courses in order to get into med school. the BSN nurse does 2 years for the Master's, and 2 years for the doctorate of Nursing =4 years while future doctor does 4 years of med school, to end with a doctorate of Medicine. same amount of time. yes they are taught different things in that time. yes the doctor has 4 years of residency to follow after getting the MD. but don't minimize the nurses' education. <br /><br />bottom line Nurses and doctors all need each other in order to help patientss best. we need LPN's and CNAs and PT/OTs too, etc. enough already. <br /><br />refer to the nurse practioner as Jane/John Doe, ARNP or whatever in a letter, if they have a doctorate, say Dr. so and so. in your practice say "I'm dr. doe, your physician/nurse practitioner/physical therapist/dentist, etc." if the patient asks you the difference, have a short explanation ready to make sure they understand, with seeming pompous or putting the other practice down. You Need Each Other. ugh!<br /><br />-a formet RN, most frequently patient, nowadays.The Weekly Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438258261628580479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-44843146080829205612015-11-29T11:57:24.948-08:002015-11-29T11:57:24.948-08:00MDs and DOs must be identified on their ID tags as...MDs and DOs must be identified on their ID tags as physicians. NP, PAs etc do not. In our hospital NPs have to have "nurse" on their ID tags. PAs Physician Assistant. NPs with a doctorate carry their doctoral credentials as well (eg: PhD).The reason for this is that, in the past, non-physicians were being identified as doctors to the patients and they were upset to find that Doctor So-and-so was not a physician and some nasty lawsuits came about. In a hospital setting when speaking to patients or families a "doctor" is expected to have an MD or DO degree (or be a DPM for podiatrists or a DDS/DMD for dentists, but in these cases the settings of care make it obvious)CHLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-62928130266125957512014-04-25T12:06:38.745-07:002014-04-25T12:06:38.745-07:00Let's simplify everything. Everyone (nurses, d...Let's simplify everything. Everyone (nurses, doctors, staff, clients) should call an MD or DO doctor; again, everyone (nurses, doctors, staff and clients) should call an NP "Master"<br /><br />I'm less than one year from being "Master"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-91868307768938608192013-07-02T19:47:26.860-07:002013-07-02T19:47:26.860-07:00"...throuh med school..."
"...unbel..."...throuh med school..."<br />"...unbelievable demanding..." <br />"...moree qualifications..." <br />"...have sacriciced..." <br />"...in misrepresemtation..." <br />"...deciet..." <br />"...add I dont..." <br />"...concentrted..." <br />"...flimsy argumants..." <br />"...and thing you..."<br /><br />Med school graduate - CHECK<br />Board-certified - CHECK<br />High-school level English skills - hmmm...<br /><br />Way to prove your point, Doctor.Galenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166001172762075910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-25419982884818568262013-02-24T22:48:19.853-08:002013-02-24T22:48:19.853-08:001. I am an NP in pulm/cc. I see critical care pati...1. I am an NP in pulm/cc. I see critical care patients.<br /><br />2. I see them independently and bill and get reimbursed for my services<br /><br />3. My collaborating physician who has been practicing for over 25 years says that I am as smart as any PCP and most pulmonologists that he knows. <br /><br />4. I am not a phsycian nor do I pretend to be one. I love what I do. And I get get paid WELL to do it. no overhead, no massive medical school bills..... who is smarter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-76418595411641306902012-06-18T10:02:37.111-07:002012-06-18T10:02:37.111-07:00Haha, I love this:
"It was concentrated, to...Haha, I love this: <br /><br />"It was concentrated, tough, unbelievable demanding, often totally unreasonable."<br /><br />...<br /><br />"But please don't compare me to someone who gradually, bit by bit, picked up moree qualifications here and there and now pretends. Pretends they have taken my path, have sacriciced all I have, have contributed as much as I have"<br /><br />-----------<br /><br />As a generalization, doctors are the second most deluded and brainwashed professionals -- behind pharmacists -- as to their value to society. The chief argument they cite for being able to provide better care and diagnostics is that they went through more education, that they passed more useless tests and stayed up longer nights goose-stepping their way through as much rote memorization as the AMA posits they could take, slaved away as indentured servants to their masters for token pay, etc. etc.<br /><br />Then these tools swipe in to see me for a quick sec, check my reported symptoms against their computer (read webMD) and either tell me what I already know from webMD, or have someone else run the tests to round out the data needed for the webMD checklist. And then, when there is something complex at issue, they just pass the buck on to the specialist because they can't be counted on to be 'expert' webMD browsers at everything!<br /><br />So, when an MD general practitioner insists on being recognized as superior to anyone I just laugh -- out loud. What they are insisting on is to be called a chump. They are insisting on being recognized for jumping through more hoops than anyone, being a pliant little puppet to the interests of their trade association, all for the privilege to add no value at all to the health of their patients above and beyond what their staff does.<br /><br />And these tools punch the clock right at 5 every day (sorry if you were 10 minutes late for your appointment) in a mad rush to get home and catch the latest E.R. or House episode so they can reassure themselves of their superiority. "Oh look, here comes the doctor! He/She's so brilliant! They're going to get the Nobel prize for solving this complex riddle of biophysics that are this chap's symptoms! What a genius hero, saving lives at every turn!" Cue humble, frumpy, incompetent nurses and staff lining the halls clapping adoringly for the hero Doctor! "No petty nurse could do this with their 9 years of training, geez, isn't it obvious that 11 years of being a complete tool are required in order to solve problems and think independently?" Yes, of course it's obvious, the doctor reassures himself.<br /><br />I for one prefer to see NPs, no matter what my situation, because the fact that they ARE NOT a doctor means they might actually have some critical thinking skills.<br /><br />Enjoy your marginal social prestige while it lasts, Doctor. The AMA can only protect your ego and your salary from the reality of your unassuming role in modern medicine for so long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-16367770069162951112012-06-02T04:14:57.760-07:002012-06-02T04:14:57.760-07:00Hello. I am a doctor. I studied hard. I got top...Hello. I am a doctor. I studied hard. I got top grades while young. I went throuh med school while young. It was concentrated, tough, unbelievable demanding, often totally unreasonable. I call myself doctor in a clinical context because I am. I earned it. I have huge respect and admiration for my nursing colleagues. But they don't pretend they can do my job. To be a doctor is amazing just as it is damaging to the lives of those who do it. The brutal truth is that being a doctor is to choose a path of sacrifice. I'm glad I've done it. But please don't compare me to someone who gradually, bit by bit, picked up moree qualifications here and there and now pretends. Pretends they have taken my path, have sacriciced all I have, have contributed as much as I have. Please, all you wannabe doctors, why do you bring such decietful disgrace on your perfectly valid paths. You know full well you are engaged in misrepresemtation. Your arrogance, deciet and jealousy are sad. AS has been said before: If you want to be a 'doctor' in a medical context then lay down the same sacrifices as medical doctors do and go to med school. You disgust me. If I met you in clinical practice I would smile at you. Don't be taken in by that - I smile and nod add I dont have the time to swim against your torrent of self serving, self deceiving BS. Yours faithfully. A 'doctor'. Thats right excelled from an early age, completed a gruelling curse in a concentrted fashion while young and has all the clinical experience you tack your flimsy argumants together with. So....the word 'doctor'. You know what that means now. Its clear now I hope. If not then you can do another 'doctorate' in your much vaunted 'common sense'. Also then nice, trusting patients won't be taken in and thing you are capable of what I have proven. Accept your lot in life or change it with honesty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-60744113074146516762012-04-09T22:58:26.242-07:002012-04-09T22:58:26.242-07:00Physician = occupation
Nurse Practitioner = occup...Physician = occupation<br /><br />Nurse Practitioner = occupation<br /><br />Doctor = doctorate college level degree in anything.<br /><br />Get the picture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-43207489822742365082012-02-22T09:12:34.332-08:002012-02-22T09:12:34.332-08:00Let's call anybody that has contact with the p...Let's call anybody that has contact with the patient, "Dr."<br /><br />That would make everybody happy. After all, the only difference between MD, NP, NP-PHD, PA, LPN, RN, and MA, and office staff, is the amount of school, and clinical training right? Years of experience more than makes up for the educational differences right? So its all a shade of gray? No winners, no losers? everybody is equal? <br /><br />Then if patient is mis-diagnosed, or becomes acutely sick, and heaven forbid, dies...Doctor? Where are you, all you doctors? Or, The practice has a couple of slow months, and can't meet debt obligations, and payroll. More and more capital is needed to survive and employ ten or twelve people... Now who is a doctor? Doctor? Who can chip in another 50k? Do some of you Docotrs mind going and mortgaging your homes and getting a loan to keep the practice going? Hello Doctors? Anybody there?<br /> <br />If a person wants to be called Doctor, go to school, and become a physician. It's a free country. For the bright, and persistent,MD can follow your name. You will make alot of money. You will also pay out alot of money in insurance, payroll, rent or mortgages, insurance processing, equipment leases, utilities, taxes, more taxes, more insurance, professional dues and licenses, supplies, and a hundred other gotchas.<br /> <br />Nice to meet you Doctor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-62013217909866154942011-12-13T13:58:34.451-08:002011-12-13T13:58:34.451-08:00I call them trash, because that's what they ar...I call them trash, because that's what they are. They put you through a process that feels like you are getting an oil change. And if only it were so, if I could go through a machine that read everything, I'd be happy. But in addition to a clumsy oil change, you get human judgment, criticism and then a big bill, for basically doing nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-57781276477920514032011-12-13T13:54:28.358-08:002011-12-13T13:54:28.358-08:00I have hiv and I've not seen an MD in 3 yrs. I...I have hiv and I've not seen an MD in 3 yrs. Instead, I get PAs and NPs and they want to act like they are doctors, but when I ask them intelligent questions about research they think that I am undermining them because they are taught to follow a very strict flowchart / decision tree on care and my questions scare them outside of their safety box. <br /><br />I think one thing being an MD gives you is the confidence and wisdom to use your intelligence, knowledge of biology, biochemistry, biostatistics and reality to make an informed, smart reply. I think PAs and NPs I've encountered don't do this, but they want the respect and they will not get it from me.<br /><br />They can't remember what happened last time, can't remember my name, manufacture mythologies about my diet based on how I look (ie: they say, "stop the fast food..." so i'm overweight from meds but no, I must be eating fast food...yet I eat only an organic vegetarian diet!).<br /><br />I'm never calling these people doctor. Having a phD in English doesn't compel me to call you DR unless I'm in your class. Likewise, having a phD in nursing will not compel me to call you DR especially in the context of treatment/care, but I would I were in your nursing class.<br /><br />Calling a nurse a DR is like calling the guy who washes the space rockets an astronaut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-76554691954872127822011-09-27T02:35:10.106-07:002011-09-27T02:35:10.106-07:00Nurses spend 2 years of undergrad doing "nurs...Nurses spend 2 years of undergrad doing "nursing stuff," 2 years for a masters, and ~ 2 years for a doctorate. 2+2+2=6 yrs compare that to ~11 years to become a board certified physician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-55168273215707048182011-09-07T16:50:59.482-07:002011-09-07T16:50:59.482-07:00MDs spend their four years of college learning bio...MDs spend their four years of college learning biology. They learn about human life at the molecular and cellular level which is very important in order to know what happens when you get sick. I always here people talking about the human body thinking they know more than physicians including my dad and when you talk like that all of us know that you do not know what you are talking about. I have taken my fair share of anatomy, physiology, biology, chemistry etc to know how little I know compared to physicians. People know your limitations ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-56001530410701867572011-09-07T16:42:33.240-07:002011-09-07T16:42:33.240-07:00When someone is in need of medical attention they ...When someone is in need of medical attention they never call for a nurse they call for a doctor! This goes to all of you trying to put down doctors. I am married to a physician and I can tell you that medical school and residency and fellowship and now board certifications every ten years or so is a lot harder than most PhDs to the exception of a PhD in Chemistry. Do not take away from what physicians do and know.<br /> I am very good at diagnosing and maybe prescribing but it takes a lot more knowledge about anatomy and physiology to be a physician. <br /> That being said I was reading the postings because I wanted to know the proper way to address the nurse practitioner I see. They are wonderful, they do a great job and I want to give them all the respect they deserve but I do not think calling them doctors is it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-34454049953614821442011-05-11T15:33:27.737-07:002011-05-11T15:33:27.737-07:00Additionally, NPs have a lot more education than y...Additionally, NPs have a lot more education than you think getting their NP and doctorate. MDs spend their first 4 college years doing whatever. NPs spent their first 4 years in college doing nursing. Then two years for a Masters, then an addition 3-5 completing the doctorate. All in patient care. NONE in basket weaving. Ask those who see NPs about the level of care they receive. Education is different but not inferior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-88245194753095042882011-05-11T15:28:57.969-07:002011-05-11T15:28:57.969-07:00This is such a lively conversation with little mer...This is such a lively conversation with little merit though. I am an NP and I have a Doctorate in Nursing Practice. So I am Dr. bla bla bla NP. No problem. I have a doctorate and do not say I'm a physician. Physicians do not hold the patent on the word doctor... it's a educational designation. If I can't use doctor, let MDs drop it too and call themselves Physician so and so. It's the same thing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9158299.post-17608102743321891762011-02-12T10:14:09.616-08:002011-02-12T10:14:09.616-08:00According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary the te...According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary the term "doctor" is defined as the following:<br /><br />1) a person who has earned one of the highest academic degrees (as a PhD) conferred by a university <br />2) a person awarded an honorary doctorate by a college or university <br />3) a person skilled or specializing in healing arts; especially : one (as a physician, dentist, or veterinarian) who holds an advanced degree and is licensed to practice <br /><br />I would say that if Medical Physicians are concerned about confusion then they should pursue legislation that only allows them to utilize the term "doctor". I don't think this is something they are willing to do nor do I think anyone would allow this. This is simply a case of tradition. Historically we have called Medical Physicians "doctor's" and that has become the common representation but by definition this is not an all inclusive title to be used only for Physicians. I am not sure as to the credibility of MedicineNet but their definition is as follows:<br />Doctor: In a medical context, any medical professional with an MD, a PhD, or any other doctoral degree. The term doctor is quite nonspecific. A doctor may, for example, be a physician, psychologist, biomedical scientist, dentist, or veterinarian. In a nonmedical context, a professor of history might be addressed as doctor, an eminent theologian might be named a doctor of a church, and a person awarded an honorary doctorate by a college or university might also be called a doctor. <br /><br />The word "doctor" comes from the Latin "docere" meaning to teach. A doctor was a teacher, especially a learned or authoritative one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com